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標題: [蘭科] 北插天天麻 Gastrodia peichatieniana 蘭科(腐生草本) [打印本頁]

作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-10-26 07:01     標題: 北插天天麻 Gastrodia peichatieniana 蘭科(腐生草本)

Found this single plant in a forest. I didn't find other plants in that location, so not sure about id...

Could you please help?

Thanks





[ Last edited by  Ronaldo at 2009-10-26 20:49 ]
作者: KUNO    時間: 2009-10-26 12:07

Burmannia championii
作者: mathew    時間: 2009-10-26 12:20

Don't feel like Burmannia to me.
Is it possible to be Cheirostylis sp.?
作者: mic    時間: 2009-10-26 17:45

Gastrodia menghaiensis Z. H. Tsi et S. C. Chen

congratulation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: mathew    時間: 2009-10-26 19:55

For reference:
Related links of "Gastrodia menghaiensis Z. H. Tsi et S. C. Chen":
(in chinese)
http://www.bioinfo.cn/db05/WhzwL ... ion=view&id=523

Drawings:
http://www.bioinfo.cn/db05/lankzwtp/y_t523_1.html

Ronaldo, can you share more photos about it?

[ 本帖最後由 mathew 於 2009-10-26 19:59 編輯 ]
作者: mic    時間: 2009-10-26 20:29

Gastrodia menghaiensis 's photoes:
http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu_biaoben_list.aspx?id=79240
作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-10-26 20:48     標題: Reply #6 mic's post

Thanks a lot Michael
作者: lantauer    時間: 2009-10-26 20:56

Found it in HK!!
作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-10-26 21:13

Two other pictures, Mathew.
Unfortunately, I didn't take many...




作者: mathew    時間: 2009-10-26 21:46     標題: 回覆 #9 Ronaldo 的帖子

Seems just missed the blooming season.
作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-10-26 22:45     標題: Reply #10 mathew's post

quite a few times this year unfortunately...
作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-11-2 07:57     標題: Reply #11 Ronaldo's post

I investigated a bit. Isn't the gastrodia this one instead?
Seems very similar to the Yunnan's one... Found in Flora of China on the web

Gastrodia peichatieniana S. S. Ying, Coloured Ill. Fl. Taiwan
2: 690. 1987 [“peichatieniana” and “peichiatieniana”].
北插天天麻 bei cha tian tian ma
Gastrodia autumnalis T. P. Lin.
Plants 10–40 cm tall. Rhizome 1.8–2.6 cm, 0.5–0.8 cm in diam., fleshy, villous. Peduncle pale whitish brown, 20–32 cm, 3- or 4-noded, with several sheaths at base; sheaths not persistent; rachis 1–6 cm, subdensely 2–8-flowered; floral bracts pale brown, narrowly oblong-ovate, 2.5–4 mm, apex acute. Flowers erect, not resupinate, not opening widely, white, sometimes
tinged brown; pedicel and ovary white, tinged pale brown, 7–9 mm; pedicel elongating in fruit. Perianth tube cylindric, 5–8 mm, slender, lacking a deep sinus between lateral sepals, outer
surface smooth; free portion of sepals deltoid, 0.8–1.5 mm, margin crisped; free portion of petals elliptic or suborbicular, smaller than sepal lobes, margin crisped; lip connate with perianth tube for most of its length, only apical portion free; free portion of lip exserted at sinus between lateral sepals, simple, ovate, slightly concave, small, glabrous, sometimes absent. Column 4–6 mm, with glandular spots on ventral surface toward base; column wings 1–1.5 mm wide; column foot short. Capsule ellipsoid, to 20 mm. Fl. Oct.
● Forests; 900–1500 m. C and N Taiwan.
This species has a petaloid lip. It may well represent a peloric form of a species such as Gastrodia menghaiensis.
作者: mathew    時間: 2009-11-2 09:35

From the photos here, I guess the individual <10 cm tall.

Besides, rhizome does matter.
Without looking at the rhizome (and more detail),
It may still have possibility that this is noa Gastrodia.
作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2009-11-2 13:43     標題: Reply #13 mathew's post

it is actually longer than 10cm (more in the region of 15cm), which is the main reason I took the picture (it looked much too long for a Burmannia).
作者: 狸早    時間: 2010-10-7 21:29

今天與一師兄閒談,無意中得知他剛剛在福建省拍攝了類似天麻。在狸看來和Ronaldo先生的未知天麻很像。
雖然知道這裡只放香港植物,但狸覺得這個物種信息很少,所以也把照片加到此處,希望能增加些這個物種的信息。
這個物種在福建應該也是新記錄。

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   原作者:花果菌
   作者博客:http://www.cnplants.com/
   拍攝地點:福建省武夷山  【Wuyi Mountain, Fujian Province】
   拍攝時間:October

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作者: ssmar    時間: 2010-11-23 16:14

It looks like this:

http://www.yellowman.cn/shenzhen/1/Gastrodia_peichatieniana.htm

http://210.77.82.227/jtsb_cn/ch/ ... t.aspx?file_no=2500

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作者: Ronaldo    時間: 2010-11-23 20:04     標題: Reply #16 ssmar's post

Agree it should be Gastrodia peichatieniana.

作者: kw_lam    時間: 2012-9-16 19:34     標題: 北插天天麻 Gastrodia peichatieniana

應是腐生植物,高度20~50cm






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作者: kw_lam    時間: 2012-9-16 20:31

mathew:
有沒有多些資料?
作者: 小晴子    時間: 2012-9-16 20:49

北插天天麻......
作者: Sze    時間: 2012-9-17 23:42

但mathew說本討論區有相,但我找不到有北插天天麻的帖子, mathew是否另有所指, 還是有另一個名字? 謝謝!
作者: kw_lam    時間: 2012-9-18 00:10     標題: 回覆 #4 Sze 的帖子

http://www.hkwildlife.net/viewth ... highlight=Gastrodia
作者: kw_lam    時間: 2014-10-18 19:08

未熟之果

已熟爆裂之果







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