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出發..........

[ 本帖最後由 獵隼 於 2009-4-13 21:55 編輯 ]

記得再搵多啲奇難雜魚嚟睇下。

Maybe we give him a "wish list" so that our dreams may all come true... how about a coelacanth?

However, if "Wai" quoted 7 inches total length, this would be a new record excessively big C. maudae!  

[ 本帖最後由 jasonpoon 於 2017-5-12 13:25 編輯 ]

我都覺得唔似係 Cryptocentrus maudae,
家陣都係估估下。

Dr. Gianluca 好有心, 搵埋新架坡同澳洲兩位專家, 實行三師會診id條魚,
佢地三位都認為係Cryptocentrus maudae 莫氏絲鰕虎魚。
獵隼, 你又再一次發現香港新紀錄魚啦! 恭喜!

以下係Dr. Gianluca 最新email:

Dear Derek,

Both Dr. Zeehan Jaafar (National Univ. of Singapore, Singapore) and Dr. Helen Larson (Museum and Art Gallery of the Northern Territory, Australia) agree that the photos should be of Cryptocentrus maudae Fowler, 1937.

Also the habitat (tide pools) and the location correspond to the known distribution (from Palau to Thailand):
http://fishbase.mnhn.fr/Summary/ ... ;speciesname=maudae

You are welcome to communicate this outcome to your forum.

Cheers,
Gianluca

獵隼佢都唔會收到呢個消息架啦...呢幾日....

打俾佢咪得囉!

BUT... the size factor is not solved... C. maudae should not be so large... IF "Wai" quoted 7 inches - circa 20cm is the true size of the fish.

在此多謝 SimFish 和 Jasonpoon 一直幫忙找資料。

更加要感謝三位魚類專家的鑑定。
Thanks Dr. Gianluca、Dr. Zeehan Jaafar and  Dr. Helen Larson for they valuable information.

OK, size apart, I agree that the coloration and pattern matched C. maudae very closely. Let's try to look into the genus Cryptocentrus a bit more.

I reviewed info from FishBase. Since C. maudae can closely resemble 2 other species namely C. leucostictus and C. albidorsus, the possibility should at least be open until a specimen is examined and measured.

I also checked that C. maude probably has not been reported in China. From the principle of judging from the common to the rare, we should not abandon the possibility of C. albidorsus (reported from Taiwan). Although the coloration is not matching, from the info of FishBase.

Note that the whole genus Cryptocentrus seems do not have any reported size of more than around 10cm-14cm, this large fish if belongs to Cryptocentrus may well worth more study.

I would be bewildered if such a large shrimp goby is seen associating with a shrimp in HK water...

在自然界中有些魚大條咗會將身型改變，
我相信#1的鰕虎魚(莫氏絲鰕虎魚)就是這一類，
越大條，身型的比例會變得幼長。
所以我第一眼見到這鰕虎魚時總是覺得有點怪怪的。

http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimage/advanced_search.html

I come across this Japanese site and searched C. maudae, they have 9 photos and some taken in Hong Kong "小棕林" back in late 90's. The fish in all photos do not look like your's.

Please have a look.

I am still puzzled by the identity of the goby...

我入到去 search 唔到 C. maudae

Just input "maudae" and use "Partial Match" in the Species Box.

我入到去 search  マウデズ・シュリンプゴビー ，
佢出咗九張細相出黎，
但我篤張相或藍色字 KPM-NR0064703，都放唔到大相，
就用細的相看，非常似我影的一條。


http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimage/simple_search.html

[ 本帖最後由 獵隼 於 2011-10-24 23:45 編輯 ]

這兩處都有這魚
http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/jirobei/archive/200707/1
http://torimogu.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-289.html

http://handlinefishing.com/whats ... addleshrimpgoby.htm

這魚的身型很瘦長
https://picasaweb.google.com/fis ... 5129902136103799698

這魚的臀鰭黃色，有黑色斜紋。
https://picasaweb.google.com/fis ... 5129902136103799714


http://www.nangokulife.net/fishg ... centrus_maudae.html

[ 本帖最後由 獵隼 於 2011-10-23 23:12 編輯 ]

這魚是釣魚人任釣獲的

全長 :  14.5cm / 5 吋6分
地點 : "赤門" 附近

這魚 與 #1 09年3月的照片中的魚(約 18cm / 7 吋)的身長比例明顯有很大分別。
有可能是因為與牠一起生活的蝦所建洞穴內的呎吋大小關係，這魚生長時只能改變體長去迎合。






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[ 本帖最後由 獵隼 於 2011-10-26 21:48 編輯 ]

C. maudae in HK is surely the biggest in average among its range...